{"id":259,"date":"2012-11-03T06:42:58","date_gmt":"2012-11-03T11:42:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/blog\/?p=259"},"modified":"2012-11-05T10:35:29","modified_gmt":"2012-11-05T15:35:29","slug":"solving-bump-steer-problem-for-drag-racing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/performancetrends.com\/blog\/?p=259","title":{"rendered":"Solving Bump Steer Problem for Drag Racing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ford Engineer Blaine Ramey of Ramey Motorsports has been running one of the new Ford Factory Race Cobra Jets.\u00a0 Recently they had to modify the front suspension to accommodate a deep sump oil pan.<!--more--><\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 349px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/images\/Customer%20Stuff\/Blaine%20Launching%20w%20PTI%20Decal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"         \" title=\"Blaine Launching\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/images\/Customer%20Stuff\/Blaine%20Launching%20w%20PTI%20Decal.jpg\" alt=\"Blaine Launching \" width=\"349\" height=\"230\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blaine Launching (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>On his next outing, Blaine almost jumped to the other lane when he got on the brakes at the end of the pass.\u00a0 Something had really changed in the suspension.\u00a0 Luckily Blaine\u2019s engineering mind brought him to our <a title=\"Suspension Analyzer\" href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/SuspAnzr.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Suspension Analyzer<\/a> as the proper tool to solve this problem.<\/p>\n<p>The first step was to see what the problem was.\u00a0 Was it some severe caster change from before, a bump steer problem, camber change, etc?\u00a0 Blaine made the measurements of his McPherson strut suspension and modeled its motion in the Suspension Analyzer.\u00a0 What popped up as a problem was the severe bump steer, or that the tire\u2019s toe in changes dramatically as the suspension goes through dive and rebound.\u00a0 This would have caused the steering instability as Blaine went from accelerating (rebound or spring extension) to braking (dive or spring compression).\u00a0 See Figure 2 for visual of what Blaine&#8217;s bump steer looked like.\u00a0 It shows the tires severely toeing out with 3\u201d of front end dive.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 311px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Toe%20In.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"   \" title=\"Front View of Suspension Showing 3\u201d of Dive Produces .92\u201d of Toe Out\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Toe%20In.gif\" alt=\"Front View of Suspension Showing 3\u201d of Dive Produces .92\u201d of Toe Out\" width=\"311\" height=\"142\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 2  Front View of Suspension Showing 3\u201d of Dive Produces .92\u201d of Toe Out (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Because Blaine has the <a title=\"Drag Race Datamite\" href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/drag_racing_datamite.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Drag Race Datamite<\/a> v4.1 and the new <a title=\"Datamite\" href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/dtm-hdwe.htm\" target=\"_blank\">DataMite<\/a> 4 data logger with shock travel sensors, he knows exactly how much spring travel he\u2019s getting when this happens.\u00a0 The graph of a typical run with the shock sensors show shock travel going from 2\u201d of rebound to 0.4\u201d of dive.\u00a0 See Figure 3 of DataMite 4 shock travel data.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 307px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Shock%20Travel%20Graph.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 3 DataMite 4 Shock Travel Graph\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Shock%20Travel%20Graph.gif\" alt=\"Figure 3 DataMite 4 Shock Travel Graph\" width=\"307\" height=\"190\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 3 DataMite 4 Shock Travel Graph - Two (2.0) Inches of Shock Rebound at end of Run, then Drops to 0.4\u201d Dive (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>When Blaine saw this, he confirmed it by checking toe on the actual car as he jacked it up and watched the tires toe out significantly.\u00a0 Now, how to fix it?<\/p>\n<p>This is where the real advantage of using the Suspension Analyzer comes in.\u00a0 You can try many different modifications manually and instantly see how the Toe Gain changes.\u00a0 (Toe Gain is the amount of toe change you get from a standard 1\u201d of dive, where Bump Steer is the amount Toe changes for most any amount of suspension travel.)\u00a0 Anything which reduces Toe Gain will also reduce Bump Steer.\u00a0 Modifications which typically affect Bump Steer are relocating either end of the tie rods, either on the spindle or the rack.\u00a0 So Blaine tried moving the rack around and moving the tie rod attachments on the spindle.<\/p>\n<p>There is also an automatic Optimize feature in the Suspension Analyzer which lets the program try hundreds of combinations of modifications to check for some improvement you are looking for.\u00a0 Figure 4 shows what the Optimize feature came up with for a better rack location.\u00a0 Blaine could easily move the rack back about 1.5\u201d, so that was what was done with the rack.\u00a0 The same can be done in Optimize by moving the left or right Tie Rod Ends to find better (lower) bump steer.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 277px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Optimize%20Rack%20Position%20for%20Bump%20Steer.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 4 Optimize Feature Finding Better Rack Position\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Optimize%20Rack%20Position%20for%20Bump%20Steer.gif\" alt=\"Figure 4 Optimize Feature Finding Better Rack Position\" width=\"277\" height=\"196\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 4 Optimize Feature Finding Better Rack Position (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Figure 5 shows where you can see Toe Gain.\u00a0 This number instantly changes as you relocate any suspension mounting point.\u00a0 It shows on the right how Toe Gain has been reduced considerably when the Tie Rod mount on the Spindle is raised.\u00a0 Compared to the left at the original position, it is about 4 times better (smaller).<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 277px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Shock%20Fixed%20Bump%20Steer.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 5  Front Suspension at 2\u201d Rebound (rise) showing 0 Toe In, Much Lower Toe-In Gain, and New vs Old Tie Rod Location on Spindle\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Shock%20Fixed%20Bump%20Steer.gif\" alt=\"Figure 5  Front Suspension at 2\u201d Rebound (rise) showing 0 Toe In, Much Lower Toe-In Gain, and New vs Old Tie Rod Location on Spindle\" width=\"277\" height=\"215\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 5  Front Suspension at 2\u201d Rebound (rise) showing 0 Toe In, Much Lower Toe-In Gain, and New vs Old Tie Rod Location on Spindle (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Not all modifications the program would suggest were easily obtainable.\u00a0 What Blaine came up with is moving the rack back about 1.5\u201d and raising the tie rod on the spindle by about 2\u201d. \u00a0 (Figures 6 and 7.)\u00a0 This dramatically improved the bump steer, as shown by the graph of Toe In vs Dive for the 2 conditions, Baseline and Fixed.\u00a0 See Figure 8.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 270px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20move%20rack%20back.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 6 Fixed Steering Rack Position\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20move%20rack%20back.JPG\" alt=\"Figure 6 Fixed Steering Rack Position\" width=\"270\" height=\"203\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 6 Fixed Steering Rack Position (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 270px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20original%20tie%20rod%20end.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 7  Tie Rod End Modification\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20original%20tie%20rod%20end.JPG\" alt=\"Figure 7  Tie Rod End Modification\" width=\"270\" height=\"203\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 7  Tie Rod End Modification (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 346px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Bump%20Steer%20Graph.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"  \" title=\"Figure 8  Suspension Analyzer Graph of Bump Steer, Baseline and Fixed\" src=\"http:\/\/performancetrends.com\/graphics\/Blog\/Blaine%20Bump%20Steer%20Graph.gif\" alt=\"Figure 8  Suspension Analyzer Graph of Bump Steer, Baseline and Fixed\" width=\"346\" height=\"212\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 8  Suspension Analyzer Graph of Bump Steer, Baseline and Fixed (Click on the image to enlarge it)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As long as they were working on the suspension, Blaine also decided to adjust Toe In to be about 0 (tires point straight ahead) at the shock sensor extension of 2\u201d.\u00a0 Because the Suspension Analyzer allows you to enter sensor mount locations, we can see exactly what the toe in is at 2\u201d of shock extension.\u00a0 See Figure 8.\u00a0 You will note that you actually need the vehicle to rise 2.5\u201d to get 2.0\u201d of sensor extension.\u00a0 That is because the ratio between shock sensor movement and tire movement are not 1:1.\u00a0 This would not be obvious without the Suspension Analyzer.<\/p>\n<p>Zero Toe In should improve tire rolling resistance for slightly improved ETs.\u00a0 To accomplish this, the Suspension Analyzer suggested a 0.9 deg Toe In at static ride height.\u00a0 Then when the front end rises 2.5\u201d (negative dive of 2.5\u201d), it goes to 0.0 deg Toe In.<\/p>\n<p>On Blaine\u2019s next outing, the car was very \u201cwell behaved\u201d making for much less \u201cdrama\u201d at 160 MPH.\u00a0 And, in addition to the improved stability, it should be slightly faster since the tires are pointed straight ahead as it goes down the track.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Ford Engineer Blaine Ramey of Ramey Motorsports has been running one of the new Ford Factory Race Cobra Jets.\u00a0 Recently they had to modify the front suspension to accommodate a deep sump oil 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